Comments on: Night of Murder Live Event is Baaaaad http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328 MMO Online Blog, Comics, and Guides! Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:17:51 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: scribbler http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1271 scribbler Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:50:25 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1271 The thing is for me this holiday encourages good habits in people (that is assuming killing people can be considered a good habit). The big difference i noticed wasn't in open RvR but in scenarios where the marked for death mechanic made for some fun experiences as people started focus firing allot more than usual. The problem WaR faces is unlike (to use the obvious example) WoW the main draw is player versus player, if in WoW all the npc's diapered from instances leaving behind a sign saying 'off doing holiday quests back in 10 days' it would be problematic. Witching night was a HUGE failure at this, people actively avoided the influence lakes after they realized they would just get farmed for kills by whoever was the larger force(&the keg end holiday, it was grindy as hell). Add to that the cauldron hag farming (which makes the marked for death NPCs kill quest REAAAAAAAALY short in comparison) which took people away from the RvR lakes and you had a holiday which discouraged the bread and butter of WaR. Continuing the sandwich analogy all i want live events like this to add to the game is flavor, they should detract from what we like about the game in the 1st place but make it just a little different. The thing is for me this holiday encourages good habits in people (that is assuming killing people can be considered a good habit).

The big difference i noticed wasn’t in open RvR but in scenarios where the marked for death mechanic made for some fun experiences as people started focus firing allot more than usual.

The problem WaR faces is unlike (to use the obvious example) WoW the main draw is player versus player, if in WoW all the npc’s diapered from instances leaving behind a sign saying ‘off doing holiday quests back in 10 days’ it would be problematic.

Witching night was a HUGE failure at this, people actively avoided the influence lakes after they realized they would just get farmed for kills by whoever was the larger force(&the keg end holiday, it was grindy as hell). Add to that the cauldron hag farming (which makes the marked for death NPCs kill quest REAAAAAAAALY short in comparison) which took people away from the RvR lakes and you had a holiday which discouraged the bread and butter of WaR.

Continuing the sandwich analogy all i want live events like this to add to the game is flavor, they should detract from what we like about the game in the 1st place but make it just a little different.

]]> By: Pwnsan http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1269 Pwnsan Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:37:55 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1269 Damn my connection is acting screwy this week. I can see why a lot of players enjoy this event. Maybe on servers where there is a lack of oRvR this encourages them to participate. I personally just expected more from it. With all the hype leading up to this event you would imagine a hell of a lot more from it. That wasn't the case in my situation. Maybe I was setting the bar too high and fell victim to the Mythic hype machine. Damn my connection is acting screwy this week. I can see why a lot of players enjoy this event. Maybe on servers where there is a lack of oRvR this encourages them to participate. I personally just expected more from it. With all the hype leading up to this event you would imagine a hell of a lot more from it. That wasn’t the case in my situation. Maybe I was setting the bar too high and fell victim to the Mythic hype machine.

]]> By: ir0nclad http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1268 ir0nclad Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:58:56 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1268 I must say that while I agree that "Night of Murder" involves doing very little that I wouldn't have been doing otherwise, I am enjoying it (although I finished almost everything in two sessions). I've seen more people in oRvR which IMO is always a good thing no matter their level of expertise. Having particular assassination targets defined has made people less timid in general, and I've experience some good PvP over the past week as a result. Farming ten keep lords is a little excessive. Finding a guild leader in T2 or T3 is just a little too "random chancy". If I were to rate my favorite live events: #1 - Heavy Metal (the factory scenario was awesome) #2 - Witching Hour (I just like Halloween) #3 - Night of Murder (a little too easy) #4 - Keg's End (PvE farming required competing against players for limited mobs - not fun. At least NoM gives you credit to entire warband for keep lords, etc.) I must say that while I agree that “Night of Murder” involves doing very little that I wouldn’t have been doing otherwise, I am enjoying it (although I finished almost everything in two sessions). I’ve seen more people in oRvR which IMO is always a good thing no matter their level of expertise. Having particular assassination targets defined has made people less timid in general, and I’ve experience some good PvP over the past week as a result.

Farming ten keep lords is a little excessive. Finding a guild leader in T2 or T3 is just a little too “random chancy”.

If I were to rate my favorite live events:

#1 – Heavy Metal (the factory scenario was awesome)
#2 – Witching Hour (I just like Halloween)
#3 – Night of Murder (a little too easy)
#4 – Keg’s End (PvE farming required competing against players for limited mobs – not fun. At least NoM gives you credit to entire warband for keep lords, etc.)

]]> By: Squin http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1267 Squin Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:46:25 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1267 I posted a response to you on my blog at: http://squin.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/how-does-night-of-murder-measure-up-as-live-event/ I posted a response to you on my blog at: http://squin.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/how-does-night-of-murder-measure-up-as-live-event/

]]> By: Stonesledge http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1236 Stonesledge Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:19:40 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1236 Sadly enough, after reading your post. I have toa gree with you, and you are right. To hell with those titles, to hell with those rewards, to hell with shiny stuff above players heads that if you have one yourself you can't see it. One thing I have to say which Sumo has stated aswell, More people join in ORvR. Sad thing is, for some it is their first time, and I consider my knownledge of the game ot be basic, those below that.. well.. Phail The scenario's seem to pop earlier and more often than usual aswell, which my Engineer likes a lot *coug* solo *cough* Thanks for getting my mind straight once again. Cheers off-topic-PS Some suggestions I would like to see on your blog (no bullets): -Is it possible to implement a button which lets me know by email if theres a reply to a certain post? -I thought of this while writing this comment: Would it fancy you to look at all the scenarios (or some, or one) and which is your fav and write a guide(line) 'how-to-play' thingamajig. -Don't you hate it when people blame healers for not healing, or a tank zerging in without a shield, losing LoS, then he complains... ARGH! Cheesr again Sadly enough, after reading your post. I have toa gree with you, and you are right. To hell with those titles, to hell with those rewards, to hell with shiny stuff above players heads that if you have one yourself you can’t see it.

One thing I have to say which Sumo has stated aswell, More people join in ORvR. Sad thing is, for some it is their first time, and I consider my knownledge of the game ot be basic, those below that.. well.. Phail

The scenario’s seem to pop earlier and more often than usual aswell, which my Engineer likes a lot *coug* solo *cough*

Thanks for getting my mind straight once again.
Cheers

off-topic-PS
Some suggestions I would like to see on your blog (no bullets):
-Is it possible to implement a button which lets me know by email if theres a reply to a certain post?
-I thought of this while writing this comment: Would it fancy you to look at all the scenarios (or some, or one) and which is your fav and write a guide(line) ‘how-to-play’ thingamajig.
-Don’t you hate it when people blame healers for not healing, or a tank zerging in without a shield, losing LoS, then he complains… ARGH!
Cheesr again

]]> By: Greg http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1235 Greg Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:58:20 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1235 Yeah, like Sumo says, it did bring out a lot more people to oRVR where they were hitting Keeps like nobody's business. Just last night, I was in a T3 Keep defending warband that lasted well over 2 hours. I was fun and the persistent Destruction folks were putting up quite a fight! Yeah, like Sumo says, it did bring out a lot more people to oRVR where they were hitting Keeps like nobody’s business.

Just last night, I was in a T3 Keep defending warband that lasted well over 2 hours. I was fun and the persistent Destruction folks were putting up quite a fight!

]]> By: Sumo http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1234 Sumo Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:18:40 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1234 The one thing I have noticed about this event is that it has gotten more people into oRvR and scenario's on my server (Darklands). Since this seems to be the overall focus of WAR, I think that it is a good thing. The only thing that I don't care for much is is the prizes. I would personal like to see more dyes included. As I haven't figured out how to view the trophies on my character, they don't really interest me much. The one thing I have noticed about this event is that it has gotten more people into oRvR and scenario’s on my server (Darklands). Since this seems to be the overall focus of WAR, I think that it is a good thing. The only thing that I don’t care for much is is the prizes. I would personal like to see more dyes included. As I haven’t figured out how to view the trophies on my character, they don’t really interest me much.

]]> By: nick http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328&cpage=1#comment-1232 nick Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:53:41 +0000 http://www.pwnsan.com/?p=4328#comment-1232 Random lamb pic ftw! And Night of Murder is okay; I like the marked PvP players. Still not quite living up to the hype, though. Random lamb pic ftw!

And Night of Murder is okay; I like the marked PvP players. Still not quite living up to the hype, though.

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